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Dex Slim
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Posted - 2013.09.26 20:07:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Red Templar wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Aryth wrote:Golly gee. It appears the players still don't like CCP handing a player group 100's of billions of ISK. I am shocked by this development. What 100's of billions of ISK would those be? The ones they will donate for prizes at EVE Vega perhaps?  Donating means giving your own money to something. If they take other players money and give to some cause, its not donating. And if you look at how much they plan to "donate" and apply simple math and count how much they earned from this spike because of this development, you will see that profit is much larger than donation. Dissapointed by that decision. This is just half-assed measures in order to calm the **** storm they caused by their own poor judgement. PS. and dont compare Eve Radio to this casino thing. They are actually providing fan service and their primary goal is not making profit but to have fun. People run events and lotteries all the time and donate the proceeds to other organizations (usually charities)... so I don't know why you think that taking outside currency and donating the proceeds is somehow unusual or unsavory. It is an EXTREMELY common practice. If your church runs a bake sale to fund their summer camp for needy children, and a bakery sponsors the event and provides a lot of the goods to be sold, you don't find that legitimate? CCP wants to start sponsoring more 3rd party sites and organizations, partially through providing unique prizes. I find that to be a good thing.
That's non-profit organizations. That's a HUGE difference, you've got the keyword right there, charities. SOMER is profit driven.
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Dex Slim
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Posted - 2013.09.27 09:50:00 -
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BLerchg wrote:Jamison wrote:Andrev Nox wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Pull Chribba Dice support in protest.
Do you feel any hypocrisy posting that 32 minutes after you claimed your free gift on our site? Just curious if you'd prefer to withdraw your use of our gifts in protest :) Original post.This is so wrong, how many EULA violations is this exactly CCP Navigator? Does a reply like this meet the TOS? Regardless if it is true or not, the only way of knowing this information would be for this person to look into the personal data on SOMER BLINK and then turn around and writing about it in a public post. The fact that the issues are being completely ignored by CCP Navigator and was was never mentioned to the CSM makes me think that we have not begun to hear the whole story. Just how long was this project being worked on, who was involved with the deal and what have people been given to make this work? some people seem to overlook this. we have a case of an individual inside somer blink using our account informations to influence a discussion to his favor. WTF. you can do all kinds of nasty things with those informations. how can CCP work with them.
It puts into light a corporation, or in this case an individual that is a representative for said corporation, that doesn't care about customer information. Information that in any serious business is kept classified. Why? Because anyone would stay far away from a business sharing personal information at a whim like that. Why would I believe that such an individual being unethical about some things, would not be unethical in other? E.g. rigging a lottery given the chance? Why am I forced to have to deal with such a corporation in order to get access to new content?
However, the real point is still that even if SOMER is legit they would gain immensively by this deal. How can CCP decide and justify that a corporation deserves trillions of ISK just handed over to them? What about all other individuals and corporations that in our eyes deserves it more? If CCP goes through with this they would dig themselves a pretty deep hole for themselves. |
Dex Slim
Phrike Squadron
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:06:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:Ok, you guys win. I guess if you can't beat 'em ... join 'em.
Fair is fair. We must level the playing field.
My organization is starting up a gambling/lottery site. As part of our grand opening we are hosting an EVE player event at Jack's Bar & Grill, down the road from my house.
Now I understand that CCP can't possibly send out several devs to each and every little player event like mine. That would be crazy. I do, however, have to protest CCP sending devs to the somer blink sponsored eve vegas event. The presence of CCP devs gives somer blink additional publicity and exposure that CCP is not providing for my event. This is giving somer blink an unfair advantage.
Also... something about sandboxes.
Was going to write a long answer to this but why bother? You just can't get through to some people it seems. You simply have no clue about profit/non-profit organizations and marketing tools like sponsoring. |
Dex Slim
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:31:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:Dex Slim wrote:
Was going to write a long answer to this but why bother? You just can't get through to some people it seems. You simply have no clue about profit/non-profit organizations and marketing tools like sponsoring.
I know enough to stop bringing up non-profit organizations as they have **** all to do with any of this. I also know that CCP is free to make whatever marketing, sponsorship and promotion deals it want to promote its game. I know they will take player hysteria into account to a certain degree and I want them to know that I'm ok with it.
Really? All your posts here suggests otherwise. Especially your EVE Vegas example. Let me enlighten you.
The fans organizing EVE Vegas gain nothing, ticket money will go 100% to the event. As such they are a non-profit organization and CCP can rightly choose to endorse them however they wish.
SOMER blink is sponsoring EVE Vegas tournaments with in game currency. That's simple marketing, they expect to get something in exchange. But guess what? Everyone can sponsor an ingame event with ingame cash if they want to, even you. Just provide some 50b for tournament prizes. It's fair game.
Just giving one trillion in ISK to SOMER is not fair game. See the difference? |
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